@MrGoodGuy Classic Roast tastes like construction paper to me (and I ate enough paper as a kid to know what it tastes like) but Folgers Black Silk is pretty decent. I know a lot of people say that dark roasts are just a way to cover up crap quality beans but whatever they’re doing, it works.
According to epicurios Walmart is actually pretty good.
/youtube Epicurious coffee tasting
2022/2023 I picked up a bunch of Cafe Bustelo in the 10oz 24 back of bricks like $35 but I’m out. And it’s like triple the price. So…Have an unopened can of Maxwell I think.
But I drink it black, pre ground regardless. The office/church potluck percolators… You can cut the bitterness with some salt so. Id listen to the chiefs regardless
@Tadlem43 so I watched this several months ago. Directly on YouTube. Unprompted. Just the algorithm which. Yes. Bad… But I’m mostly cooking and engineering.little battleship new jersey. Savage. Stuff made here. Project engineering. Etc
I don’t see the walmart segment in the clip or on the table. Do you?
And I know for fact it was and they changed the clip to remove it because if you check their own transcript on their own site.
@Tadlem43 I find it really strange they edited it after the fact. But the transcript is still on their actual website/probably in the way back machine too. I think I prefer darker but I was just gonna grab a can of walmart when I run out
@unksol Thanks for posting that. I watched the video and didn’t see the Walmart review, but I just thought maybe I missed it or something.
I haven’t tried any of their other blends, but I really like the Breakfast Blend. It’s in a package (orange), not a tin.
It’s a milder coffee, but it’s got a full taste without being bitter. It’s 100% Arabica, medium.
I’ll have to try the one in the tin.
If you try the Breakfast Blend, let me know what you think.
@f00l@Tadlem43 lol that’s why I said we couldn’t figure out why. Epicurios clearly chose to edit their own video.
A few potential reasons Walmart might have wanted to be removed:
They have changed supplier to a lower quality that they don’t want to be compared to that review which would get people pissed
Their supplier doesn’t want Walmart cutting into their house brand margins.
Walmart is so big they get from multiple suppliers/can’t guarantee quality l/may buy on market conditions. And they just don’t want the attention.
Idk. I’m a cheap bastard with no coffee taste buds. I’ll probably grab some when I’m out
I don’t care, really as long as it is beans. I keep a grinder right next to machine. Creamer makes it taste good regardless… My Sinful Pleasure Starbucks went up $5, so I buy another brand… $25 is just too much for my retired budget.
So don’t take this personally but what are you getting out of fresh ground coffee that’s different than foldgers. If you just dump creamer in and don’t care about the taste?
Is it just a ritual thing for the morning?
/youtube alton brown pour over coffee method
He has one I saw with like details it’s not hitting.
But if that’s like a hobby. You can just buy green beans which would be cheaper and you can “roast” them to your desired level in air popcorn popper
And if I can coffee nerd for a moment, ground coffee starts to go stale after 24-48 hours. Whole beans start to go stale around 10 days. Most every coffee you find on the shelves is a blend of just enough of the beans that they can label it with a certain name and then blend it with the cheapest thing they can find. The coffee you buy off the shelf has likely been roasted months ago.
The reason you add cream and sugar to your coffee is because it is old and stale… which makes it bitter. I only roast single estate beans. Fresh coffee is actually almost sweet. I drink it black. But that might be just because I’m lazy
@capnjb I drink ALL coffee black. Don’t come at me with your woke coffee shit /s
Sugar? Creamer? You weak philistine!
There was an older lady where I worked security as a summer job during college who would bring in her own coffee. And considering what they were being paid. Cost something. And she would make some in the shit break room drip coffee maker. And offer us all a cup.
One in particular she thought blueberries. I think I actually got a hint. I suspect she ground it at home since she brought to work in a Ziploc. It was a nice thing to do.
I suspect my coffee tasting abilities are even worse than wine… I wonder if I still have the pics of the work coffee machine I disassembled one night and chipped… 3/8 of an inch of lime scale off the tank. Cause it was making cold coffee.
@capnjb There is a thing called the rule of 15’s. You don’t hear it so much anymore but what it means:
Coffee should be roasted no more than 15 months after it is harvested.
Coffee should be ground no more than 15 days after it is roasted.
Coffee should be brewed no more than 15 minutes after it is ground.
you have 15 seconds for that first sip.
most folk say 30 days for roasted coffee, 15 for 'spro
I have only had fresh roast coffee two times in my life. Once on a visit to my friends coffee plantation in Guatemala, and once at a hotel called The Hemlock Inn, (Loudonville, Ohio) where they roast their own beans.
Now I don’t even bother with “brands”. I suck it up with Kirkland, which is a better price point, and a vacuum sealer.
If I’m desperate for coffee at the supermarket I look for whatever is whole bean, light roast, most recently roasted (preferably within the last 2-3 weeks), and single-origin, in that order.
If I check all of these boxes, I see it as a sign that the coffee god, Caffeinius, is smiling upon me on that particular day, and purchase as many bags as I can find, up to four, and put all but one bag in the freezer.
My girlfriend will ask me if we need four bags of coffee. I will tell her yes, that we will find space in the freezer, and ask that she trusts my judgement. She obliges, and I eagerly make it as soon as we return home.
She pours it over ice, adds oat milk, and tells me that it tastes great. But I barely hear her because I’m still awestruck by my good fortune for finding inexpensive, half-decent coffee at the supermarket.
@zippyzeb Gevalia is good! Many years ago I had a subscription with them. They had some really weird flavored coffee (think, maple bacon, etc.), and a whole line of coffees from all over the world. They were all excellent!
For signing up, they sent you a coffee maker, (drip, like a Mr. Coffee), cups, and a huge stoneware canister. I think I still have all of that in storage somewhere.
One of the more fascinating things about today’s coffee world is the university level research being done that have lead recently to changes in what the AHA says is a ‘safe’ number of cups per day. (5 if you are wondering).
While most of the studies are correlational, they still show how loving coffee can benefit your health.
One of the others I found interesting, it was from England I think, showed that those who drank there coffee black received more benefits from it than those who drank it with any type of creamer (dairy or non-dairy). Sugar itself did not seem to have as much effect Interestingly, more positives were obtained from decaff than from coffee with any cream/creamer/milk added.
@f00l Most days I drink one cup of coffee, hot, black, with breakfast. Rarely, I will have a second cup later in the morning or early afternoon. None in the later afternoon or evening - else it interferes with sleep.
I’m not at all a coffee connoisseur; I make 1 large mug a day with a 1 cup filter holder. I don’t like light roasts because they’re too acidic for me. I’ve found that Target’s “Signature Organic Sumatra Mandheling” & Amazon’s “365 by Whole Foods Market, Pacific Rim Vienna Roast Ground Coffee, Dark Roast” are both good enough for my plebian tastes. ️
Having used primarily fully-automatic and super-automatic Saeco machines (starting with the first refurbished Saeco Giro I bought from Woot); I’m partial to whole bean for convenience purposes.
Push button, machine grinds/tamps/brews, repeat. Does a super-auto make the best coffee with it’s plastic brew group? probably not, but things always taste better when someone (or something) else makes it.
That said, I’ve always been fond of cheap, whole-bear, Eight-O-Clock coffee. Starbucks seems overpriced for burnt roast; Never liked Folgers (do they even have whole bean coffee?).
All that said, my Father-in-law has been sending us 5# bags of Equal Exchange coffee every few months for the last few years, so we’ve been spoiled.
FOLGER’S
/image folger’s coffee
@MrGoodGuy I like their instant version. Quick, easy caffeine. I’m not exactly considered a coffee connoisseur.
@MrGoodGuy Classic Roast tastes like construction paper to me (and I ate enough paper as a kid to know what it tastes like) but Folgers Black Silk is pretty decent. I know a lot of people say that dark roasts are just a way to cover up crap quality beans but whatever they’re doing, it works.
I have not found any reason to learn to drink coffee.
I will stick with my Di-Hydrogen, Mono-Oxide.
@mycya4me give in too the drugs
@unksol I get plenty… Lots of Chocolate!
@mycya4me
Thankfully, a cup of joe allows me to do both…
@chienfou I rather not have the flavor bean in mine!
@mycya4me
… I noticed that…
Don Fransisco
Whatever is on sale. The creamer makes the taste.
Our local store carries beans from Pacifica. Sadly their warehouse burned because of the fires in Spokane. Hopefully they can get back on their feet.
Anything with a roast date printed on the bag.
Tim Horton’s
According to epicurios Walmart is actually pretty good.
/youtube Epicurious coffee tasting
2022/2023 I picked up a bunch of Cafe Bustelo in the 10oz 24 back of bricks like $35 but I’m out. And it’s like triple the price. So…Have an unopened can of Maxwell I think.
But I drink it black, pre ground regardless. The office/church potluck percolators… You can cut the bitterness with some salt so. Id listen to the chiefs regardless
@unksol My favorite is Walmart’s Breakfast Blend. But…I’m a simple kinda person.
@Tadlem43 so I watched this several months ago. Directly on YouTube. Unprompted. Just the algorithm which. Yes. Bad… But I’m mostly cooking and engineering.little battleship new jersey. Savage. Stuff made here. Project engineering. Etc
I don’t see the walmart segment in the clip or on the table. Do you?
And I know for fact it was and they changed the clip to remove it because if you check their own transcript on their own site.
https://www.epicurious.com/video/watch/coffee-experts-blind-taste-test-every-supermarket-coffee
This is what they forgot to remove.
[Narrator] Great Value
100% Arabica Colombian Ground Coffee.
This one looks lighter.
It could be the roast profile itself.
It also can be the water to coffee ratio.
Drip coffee, I typically like between
like a one-part coffee to 16-parts water.
It smells really nice,
almost like marshmallow sweetness off of it.
This has to be a lighter roasted coffee.
Lighter roast in general,
you see the acidity come through more.
There’s some sweetness to it.
I’m getting a little bit more complexity and clarity
and flavor from this.
I feel like I get a little bit of citrus from it
and then a little bit of dried fruits, like raisin.
Bit silky.
It’s not leaving a bad aftertaste,
which that’s a good thing.
I’d call it balanced.
The body is a little bit on the heavier side,
so I would indicate, for me,
that this is a relatively fresh coffee.
I’m a fan.
Oh, it’s Walmart? Look at you, Great Value.
[Anu] 100% Arabica Colombian Ground Coffee.
Bright and fruity. What a time!
This is actually really delightful.
I feel like I’m getting a lot more complexity of flavor,
and it’s just very surprising 'cause it’s in a tin,
it’s ground, and it still for some reason
maintained a level of freshness.
I’m pretty surprised by it.
I don’t it’s as good as the Dunkin’ Donuts.
@Tadlem43 I find it really strange they edited it after the fact. But the transcript is still on their actual website/probably in the way back machine too. I think I prefer darker but I was just gonna grab a can of walmart when I run out
@unksol Thanks for posting that. I watched the video and didn’t see the Walmart review, but I just thought maybe I missed it or something.
I haven’t tried any of their other blends, but I really like the Breakfast Blend. It’s in a package (orange), not a tin.
It’s a milder coffee, but it’s got a full taste without being bitter. It’s 100% Arabica, medium.
I’ll have to try the one in the tin.
If you try the Breakfast Blend, let me know what you think.
@Tadlem43 I just don’t like them gas lighting me lol. Thankfully they are bad at it/makes me wonder about trusting the rest of their content.
Not like you can submit a FOIA to YouTube. Also not sure why Walmart would want it removed. Very odd
@unksol I doubt that Walmart had anything to do with it, esp. since the review was good. It IS weird!
@Tadlem43 @unksol
Sometimes the removal happens for other reasons.
YT is quite mysterious about all that.
Also, YouTube would probably claim that the information is both proprietary and comments are the property of the person who made them
So for various reasons they would claim they didn’t have to respond to an FOIA.
@f00l They’d claim that, and they’d be right. FOIA is for government agencies, not corporations.
@f00l @Tadlem43 lol that’s why I said we couldn’t figure out why. Epicurios clearly chose to edit their own video.
A few potential reasons Walmart might have wanted to be removed:
They have changed supplier to a lower quality that they don’t want to be compared to that review which would get people pissed
Their supplier doesn’t want Walmart cutting into their house brand margins.
Walmart is so big they get from multiple suppliers/can’t guarantee quality l/may buy on market conditions. And they just don’t want the attention.
Idk. I’m a cheap bastard with no coffee taste buds. I’ll probably grab some when I’m out
Knights Coffee is damn good.
https://knights.coffee/
I don’t care, really as long as it is beans. I keep a grinder right next to machine. Creamer makes it taste good regardless… My Sinful Pleasure
Starbucks went up $5, so I buy another brand… $25 is just too much for my retired budget.
So don’t take this personally but what are you getting out of fresh ground coffee that’s different than foldgers. If you just dump creamer in and don’t care about the taste?
Is it just a ritual thing for the morning?
/youtube alton brown pour over coffee method
He has one I saw with like details it’s not hitting.
But if that’s like a hobby. You can just buy green beans which would be cheaper and you can “roast” them to your desired level in air popcorn popper
I don’t distribute to supermarkets
And if I can coffee nerd for a moment, ground coffee starts to go stale after 24-48 hours. Whole beans start to go stale around 10 days. Most every coffee you find on the shelves is a blend of just enough of the beans that they can label it with a certain name and then blend it with the cheapest thing they can find. The coffee you buy off the shelf has likely been roasted months ago.
The reason you add cream and sugar to your coffee is because it is old and stale… which makes it bitter. I only roast single estate beans. Fresh coffee is actually almost sweet. I drink it black. But that might be just because I’m lazy
@capnjb I drink ALL coffee black. Don’t come at me with your woke coffee shit /s
Sugar? Creamer? You weak philistine!
There was an older lady where I worked security as a summer job during college who would bring in her own coffee. And considering what they were being paid. Cost something. And she would make some in the shit break room drip coffee maker. And offer us all a cup.
One in particular she thought blueberries. I think I actually got a hint. I suspect she ground it at home since she brought to work in a Ziploc. It was a nice thing to do.
I suspect my coffee tasting abilities are even worse than wine… I wonder if I still have the pics of the work coffee machine I disassembled one night and chipped… 3/8 of an inch of lime scale off the tank. Cause it was making cold coffee.
@capnjb @unksol
That was so sweet of her.
Nice people are often so nice at work, until they learned that they are punished for it.
@capnjb @f00l
/youtube send help trailer
@capnjb There is a thing called the rule of 15’s. You don’t hear it so much anymore but what it means:
Coffee should be roasted no more than 15 months after it is harvested.
Coffee should be ground no more than 15 days after it is roasted.
Coffee should be brewed no more than 15 minutes after it is ground.
you have 15 seconds for that first sip.
most folk say 30 days for roasted coffee, 15 for 'spro
anywho .
I have only had fresh roast coffee two times in my life. Once on a visit to my friends coffee plantation in Guatemala, and once at a hotel called The Hemlock Inn, (Loudonville, Ohio) where they roast their own beans.
Now I don’t even bother with “brands”. I suck it up with Kirkland, which is a better price point, and a vacuum sealer.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
@TheDagda Liked for the Loudonville shout out. Is the Hemlock Inn good? I live too close to ever stay at it.
I just drink whatever coffee is available and don’t really care, lol
If I’m desperate for coffee at the supermarket I look for whatever is whole bean, light roast, most recently roasted (preferably within the last 2-3 weeks), and single-origin, in that order.
If I check all of these boxes, I see it as a sign that the coffee god, Caffeinius, is smiling upon me on that particular day, and purchase as many bags as I can find, up to four, and put all but one bag in the freezer.
My girlfriend will ask me if we need four bags of coffee. I will tell her yes, that we will find space in the freezer, and ask that she trusts my judgement. She obliges, and I eagerly make it as soon as we return home.
She pours it over ice, adds oat milk, and tells me that it tastes great. But I barely hear her because I’m still awestruck by my good fortune for finding inexpensive, half-decent coffee at the supermarket.
Anything strong, hot, and black. Independent convenience stores tend to have it that way… usually also aged in the carafe.
The best coffee is tea.
I ordered a pumpkin chai this morning and got pumpkin latte with coffee in it.
They kindly remade it.
@kittykat9180 Are you still in Spain?
@Kyeh
I was for most of yesterday.
Now I’m in Albania.
@kittykat9180 @Kyeh
wow!
Gevalia
@zippyzeb Gevalia is good! Many years ago I had a subscription with them. They had some really weird flavored coffee (think, maple bacon, etc.), and a whole line of coffees from all over the world. They were all excellent!
For signing up, they sent you a coffee maker, (drip, like a Mr. Coffee), cups, and a huge stoneware canister. I think I still have all of that in storage somewhere.
@Tadlem43 @zippyzeb
I still use their stoneware canister to store my coffee.
Haven’t bought from them in 35 years at least…
@chienfou @Tadlem43 hey I still use one of those too!
@Tadlem43 they had a shade grown country set a few years back that was fantastic.
@chienfou @zippyzeb Mine’s taller than that one, and round, dark blue.
One of the more fascinating things about today’s coffee world is the university level research being done that have lead recently to changes in what the AHA says is a ‘safe’ number of cups per day. (5 if you are wondering).
While most of the studies are correlational, they still show how loving coffee can benefit your health.
One of the others I found interesting, it was from England I think, showed that those who drank there coffee black received more benefits from it than those who drank it with any type of creamer (dairy or non-dairy). Sugar itself did not seem to have as much effect Interestingly, more positives were obtained from decaff than from coffee with any cream/creamer/milk added.
The moral, drink it black
@Cerridwyn once you go black you don’t go back? Or something. Where have I heard that…
At least anyone on meh looking at a $15 coffee maker probably doesn’t have a Starbucks double pump sugar syrup whipped cream thing
I usually or almost always drink hot coffee black
I accomplish this by drinking espresso
When it’s iced coffee, I gunk it up with good things
but not every time really well made coffee makes great black iced coffee and sometimes I do that
Either way I frequently sip it all day long if it’s iced or for an hour or two if it’s hot
I don’t care if it gets to room temperature; either way it’s still great
I avoid ice cubes in my iced coffee. I don’t want it diluted.
I want it to be served cold or at least chilled and I’m fine with that. No cubes.
Sue me.
Call me a Philistine or far worse.
Cool!
/youtube Nashville you may say that I ain’t free but it don’t worry me
@f00l Most days I drink one cup of coffee, hot, black, with breakfast. Rarely, I will have a second cup later in the morning or early afternoon. None in the later afternoon or evening - else it interferes with sleep.
@f00l @macromeh what is this sleep you speak of?
@macromeh @unksol
What is “sleep”?
Is it something exotic? Rare?
Stumptown
I’m not at all a coffee connoisseur; I make 1 large mug a day with a 1 cup filter holder. I don’t like light roasts because they’re too acidic for me. I’ve found that Target’s “Signature Organic Sumatra Mandheling” & Amazon’s “365 by Whole Foods Market, Pacific Rim Vienna Roast Ground Coffee, Dark Roast” are both good enough for my plebian tastes.
️
Having used primarily fully-automatic and super-automatic Saeco machines (starting with the first refurbished Saeco Giro I bought from Woot); I’m partial to whole bean for convenience purposes.
Push button, machine grinds/tamps/brews, repeat. Does a super-auto make the best coffee with it’s plastic brew group? probably not, but things always taste better when someone (or something) else makes it.
That said, I’ve always been fond of cheap, whole-bear, Eight-O-Clock coffee. Starbucks seems overpriced for burnt roast; Never liked Folgers (do they even have whole bean coffee?).
All that said, my Father-in-law has been sending us 5# bags of Equal Exchange coffee every few months for the last few years, so we’ve been spoiled.
@caffeineguy
Well… your username certainly makes a lot more sense now!