@macromeh Yup, SW WA for me; we have about the highest fuel prices in the country except for CA where I used to live. Gas prices really high, and home electricity prices about the lowest in the country. The EV saturation in some areas is at least 50% in some areas. (Including me)
Update: on cross-country Tesla trip now but wife’s relatives scattered all over metro Denver area which is huge, so lots of local miles but with a few easy days can catch up on charging. And chargers everywhere if you need — can even go to Buc-Ed’s and greet the beaver, but wife thinks he’s creepy.
Was no problem getting here even through beautiful wasteland of Wyoming.
@pmarin Yeah, we’ve made that trip (daughter is in Denver area). Eastern Idaho, upper corner of Utah and southern Wyoming has a lot of wide open nothing. But at least the scenery gets better once you get into Colorado.
Last year when I made the drive back to my hometown to visit family it cost between $20 and $25 to refill my tank before driving back home. This year it cost $39 and I had only been there for 1 day as opposed to 7 so far less in town driving before I did the refill.
@skelex This is coming ip in my near future. The trip to Houston this June about $175 round trip. Going in 2 weeks… don’t want to think about. And I especially don’t want to think about when I go home and put around 2200 (two day drive each way) or so on my car. Still cheaper than flying but ugh. Going to cost a lot more.
@werehatrack Hey I am going to Houston in 2 weeks. We should meet up at the gas station! No Costco membership. Oh yeah. And I need Kirkland dry cat food too.
Charging at relative’s houses now overnight (slow garage outlet). Most have some solar. Tesla Superchargers run about $12-18 for a fill-up but don’t take long.
Have not bought gas in about 2 years. I have a Diesel pickup with camper that is parked for the moment. Dreading actually using it and filling up again. At the previous peak (close to $4) it was about $1000 for one-way cross-country, so figure at least $1500 now.
@chienfou@pmarin it’s over $9 some places in California. We’re all wondering what happens when it reaches $10, as the signs don’t have enough digits available
@creativecstasy@pmarin
If I’m not mistaken, back in the day (70s), they had to post the price in quarts or half gallons when the boards didn’t have the correct digits to display the price (first time over a dollar/gallon) in gallons.
@chienfou@creativecstasy@pmarin Alternatively, I suppose they could drop the 9/10ths. If there’s a station that would do such, it’ll probably be this one in Fenner (Essex), CA:
@chienfou hate to say any price < $4 is a bonus for most of the country.
But extra credit for doing the superscript 9. Don’t even know how to do that!
BTW isn’t it time to drop the extra .9? It made sense (fractional cents?) when gas was 59 cents a gallon. But the extra .9 at $4-$6 just seems silly.
Go like the fancy restaurants and just say the burger is 20. No $. No fractional component. Just pay your money and enjoy the burger.
@pmarin
when I pulled into town last night (after being gone for the weekend) I noticed my small town had bumped up another 5%. Gas is now 4.19⁹ (I did, however, fill up at Sam’s in Montgomery for 3.73⁹ on the way home. 13‰ less…)
I think the fractional 9/10 of a cent is tied back to tax rates. That number may be baked into the legislation that dictates the amount.
As for the superscript, on my phone (Samsung), if I swap the keyboard (I use Gboard) to numbers and long press a digit I have the option to use a superscript.
Average is around $3.90 in Fargo, ND currently. A friend who lives near Chicago sent me a pic of his local convenience store showing $5.199 which I think is insane!
@macromeh #Truth Just unbelievable to me that people don’t question these differences. I mean, I get it in some instances…Hawaii should likely have higher prices than say a state where there’s both oil & refineries like here in North Dakota.
@macromeh …but for what reason, I guess is why I ask? “Follow the money” is my thought process very often. With a zillion people in California, what does the state do with all that revenue?
With a zillion people in California, what does the state do with all that revenue?
Seems that’s money in California is legally restricted to use for transportation and transportation infrastructure related projects… Roads, public transit, related debt service, etc
Just put some juice in my truck, thankfully not diesel as it’s $6.95, and it was $4.79 with .20 off so just shy of $5/gal in Oregon City at the moment.
$3.699 for 87 octane E15 in Colorado, but that’s after a $0.90 cent store discount. The time before that without the store discount was $4.579. These are high, but not unprecedentedly high. Though, if I have to buy 87 octane ethanol-free it’s, that’s going for $4.999. (I usually keep a 5-gallon can of it around because it’s better for small engines, and I dump it in my car about every 3 months and refill it so it doesn’t go bad.)
Looking at my records of past purchases, the last time it was higher than this was back in 2022/2023. My July 6th 2022 purchase was $5.259 per gallon, that might have been ethanol free as well though. Makes me miss when I was paying $2.239 back in 2020.
Now the Diesel prices, I have no idea when they were last this high, since none of my cars use it, so I have no records of my fillups.
I think it’s starting to come down. Yesterday it was $3.99 and I procrastinated filling up. Today, it’s $3.79 and I got an additional 10 cents off a gallon using kroger points.
@ironcheftoni That feels like when the temperature is -20 degrees for a couple of days and then gets up to -5 and somebody talks about how it’s “warming up.” I beg to differ, that’s just getting a little less cold.
In the same way, gas got slightly less outrageously expensive, but it’s not getting cheaper yet.
4.41 last time I filled up in north central Ohio.
@chienfou@ironcheftoni Went to town last evening, needed gas, pulled into the first station and filled up for $3.67. It was the cheapest I saw; I passed 5 or 6 other stations and those were anywhere from $3.87 to $4.59. I resolved not to fill up again without checking GasBuddy.
$4.29/gal, which is still a little lower than what it got to in the last administration. Prices are somewhat lower in neighboring counties.
That is for E10, since epa forces rfg (diluted with ethanol or other substances) in the chicagoland area, and the state provides tax incentives that are payola to the ‘corn lobby’ that disincentivises stations from carrying unadulterated gas.
Today’s price at the nearest Murphy’s here in Houston is $3.79, and there are stations where the price has climbed to $4.20, with $3.99 more common. Given the supply line situation, I think we’ll see it hit $6 across much of the country before Xmas, and probably $9 in SoCal. From what I’m hearing, before the price hits that level, there will be spot shortages that will cause stations to be unable to get a delivery. For those of us that remember 1973, this is feeling eerily familiar.
4.95/gal no rewards or points so it cost 82 dollars to fill my bloody car this morning. I can’t even imagine what diesel drivers are doing to keep their rigs filled. I
Filled the rental south of the Canadian border. (Should have waited to be a bit closer to the border as it was about 25 cents a gallon cheaper!) Still, it’s more here in Canada right now
Probably about 6 bucks a gallon. I live in California
@Cerridwyn ibid.
$3.699 at Austin, TX Costco.
I think it was about $4.43 at the pump, but I used my Speedway membership card, stacked some codes and got $.83 off per gallon.
@heartny
Nice !
$5.799.
$5.899 @ Costco yesterday, with the total exceeding $60. I think the last time it was this high was before I dailied a hybrid.
Another week, another Costco. $5.999
@narfcake
that’s Cali.
What are diesel prices locally?
@f00l The station I pass by, $8.499. Local stations tend to be higher than at the truck stops, however.
@narfcake
/giphy painful!
$6.59
$4.979. (Name brand, regular, NW Oregon)
@macromeh Yup, SW WA for me; we have about the highest fuel prices in the country except for CA where I used to live. Gas prices really high, and home electricity prices about the lowest in the country. The EV saturation in some areas is at least 50% in some areas. (Including me)
Update: on cross-country Tesla trip now but wife’s relatives scattered all over metro Denver area which is huge, so lots of local miles but with a few easy days can catch up on charging. And chargers everywhere if you need — can even go to Buc-Ed’s and greet the beaver, but wife thinks he’s creepy.
Was no problem getting here even through beautiful wasteland of Wyoming.
@macromeh it was Buc-ee’s but spell correct keeps attacking.
@pmarin Yeah, we’ve made that trip (daughter is in Denver area). Eastern Idaho, upper corner of Utah and southern Wyoming has a lot of wide open nothing. But at least the scenery gets better once you get into Colorado.
@macromeh @pmarin
Re Buc-ee’s and AutoCorrect
On this one, I just let AutoCorrect win. It’s too big of pain to fix.
Last year when I made the drive back to my hometown to visit family it cost between $20 and $25 to refill my tank before driving back home. This year it cost $39 and I had only been there for 1 day as opposed to 7 so far less in town driving before I did the refill.
@skelex This is coming ip in my near future. The trip to Houston this June about $175 round trip. Going in 2 weeks… don’t want to think about. And I especially don’t want to think about when I go home and put around 2200 (two day drive each way) or so on my car. Still cheaper than flying but ugh. Going to cost a lot more.
$5.29/gal
Added about 90 miles range for just over 4 bucks.
But we over $4/gal here now.
$3.379 at Costco in Houston today. Most stations are at $3.79 or higher (for Regular).
@werehatrack Hey I am going to Houston in 2 weeks. We should meet up at the gas station! No Costco membership. Oh yeah. And I need Kirkland dry cat food too.
@Kidsandliz You’re on. You know my number.
Charging at relative’s houses now overnight (slow garage outlet). Most have some solar. Tesla Superchargers run about $12-18 for a fill-up but don’t take long.
Have not bought gas in about 2 years. I have a Diesel pickup with camper that is parked for the moment. Dreading actually using it and filling up again. At the previous peak (close to $4) it was about $1000 for one-way cross-country, so figure at least $1500 now.
@pmarin
Yep, diesel has been well over 6 bucks everywhere I’ve seen it recently. No wonder prices are up since shipping is such a factor.
@chienfou @pmarin it’s over $9 some places in California. We’re all wondering what happens when it reaches $10, as the signs don’t have enough digits available
@creativecstasy @pmarin
If I’m not mistaken, back in the day (70s), they had to post the price in quarts or half gallons when the boards didn’t have the correct digits to display the price (first time over a dollar/gallon) in gallons.
@chienfou @creativecstasy @pmarin Alternatively, I suppose they could drop the 9/10ths. If there’s a station that would do such, it’ll probably be this one in Fenner (Essex), CA:
https://www.gasbuddy.com/station/122465
The next station is 40 miles to the east and 40-ish miles to the west/southwest on Route 66 – and Amboy is just as isolated.
$4.09 for regular unleaded. The expensive gas station by the mall has diesel at 7.19 per gallon. That seems expensive.
3.77⁹ At Mobile Sam’s last night (plus get 5% back on gas (even theirs) using their MC branded card)
3.99⁹ at home (small town in Central AL)
@chienfou hate to say any price < $4 is a bonus for most of the country.
But extra credit for doing the superscript 9. Don’t even know how to do that!
BTW isn’t it time to drop the extra .9? It made sense (fractional cents?) when gas was 59 cents a gallon. But the extra .9 at $4-$6 just seems silly.
Go like the fancy restaurants and just say the burger is 20. No $. No fractional component. Just pay your money and enjoy the burger.
@pmarin
when I pulled into town last night (after being gone for the weekend) I noticed my small town had bumped up another 5%. Gas is now 4.19⁹ (I did, however, fill up at Sam’s in Montgomery for 3.73⁹ on the way home. 13‰ less…)
I think the fractional 9/10 of a cent is tied back to tax rates. That number may be baked into the legislation that dictates the amount.
As for the superscript, on my phone (Samsung), if I swap the keyboard (I use Gboard) to numbers and long press a digit I have the option to use a superscript.
Average is around $3.90 in Fargo, ND currently. A friend who lives near Chicago sent me a pic of his local convenience store showing $5.199 which I think is insane!
@tohar1 I guess they’re charging extra for all that convenience…
@macromeh #Truth Just unbelievable to me that people don’t question these differences. I mean, I get it in some instances…Hawaii should likely have higher prices than say a state where there’s both oil & refineries like here in North Dakota.
@tohar1 Some of it is taxes. For example:
California $0.736/gallon
Oregon $0.40/gallon
N. Dakota $0.2303/gallon
@macromeh …but for what reason, I guess is why I ask? “Follow the money” is my thought process very often. With a zillion people in California, what does the state do with all that revenue?
@tohar1 From what I’ve read, a chunk of it is spent by the governor and his pals at The French Laundry.
@macromeh I have no doubt that would be the case…
@macromeh @tohar1
Seems that’s money in California is legally restricted to use for transportation and transportation infrastructure related projects… Roads, public transit, related debt service, etc
@macromeh @tohar1
For some reason the CA governor (as he looks while using his current barber or stylist)
always looks like a Mafia don.
—-
(NOT intended as potitical. Ain’t bragging about the looks of most state governors, either
@f00l @tohar1
Or a psycho killer
$3.89 but I used fuel rewards points from tmobile. Otherwise it would have been $3.99
Way too much (in Texas, for reference).
Just put some juice in my truck, thankfully not diesel as it’s $6.95, and it was $4.79 with .20 off so just shy of $5/gal in Oregon City at the moment.
I believe this was taken at a truckstop close to Snyder Texas about a week ago
All I know is the cost of diesel is absolutely out of control. It’s unreal.
20¢/kWh (45¢ during the day)
$3.699 for 87 octane E15 in Colorado, but that’s after a $0.90 cent store discount. The time before that without the store discount was $4.579. These are high, but not unprecedentedly high. Though, if I have to buy 87 octane ethanol-free it’s, that’s going for $4.999. (I usually keep a 5-gallon can of it around because it’s better for small engines, and I dump it in my car about every 3 months and refill it so it doesn’t go bad.)
Looking at my records of past purchases, the last time it was higher than this was back in 2022/2023. My July 6th 2022 purchase was $5.259 per gallon, that might have been ethanol free as well though. Makes me miss when I was paying $2.239 back in 2020.
Now the Diesel prices, I have no idea when they were last this high, since none of my cars use it, so I have no records of my fillups.
$6.09 at the “cheap” local chain in my region - San Francisco Bay Area. Officially the most I’ve ever paid.
I think it’s starting to come down. Yesterday it was $3.99 and I procrastinated filling up. Today, it’s $3.79 and I got an additional 10 cents off a gallon using kroger points.
@ironcheftoni That feels like when the temperature is -20 degrees for a couple of days and then gets up to -5 and somebody talks about how it’s “warming up.” I beg to differ, that’s just getting a little less cold.
In the same way, gas got slightly less outrageously expensive, but it’s not getting cheaper yet.
4.41 last time I filled up in north central Ohio.
@algae1221 it was short lived. Back up to $3.99
@algae1221 @ironcheftoni
$4.59 at many stations locally (upper VT)
@chienfou @ironcheftoni Went to town last evening, needed gas, pulled into the first station and filled up for $3.67. It was the cheapest I saw; I passed 5 or 6 other stations and those were anywhere from $3.87 to $4.59. I resolved not to fill up again without checking GasBuddy.
$4.29/gal, which is still a little lower than what it got to in the last administration. Prices are somewhat lower in neighboring counties.
That is for E10, since epa forces rfg (diluted with ethanol or other substances) in the chicagoland area, and the state provides tax incentives that are payola to the ‘corn lobby’ that disincentivises stations from carrying unadulterated gas.
Today’s price at the nearest Murphy’s here in Houston is $3.79, and there are stations where the price has climbed to $4.20, with $3.99 more common. Given the supply line situation, I think we’ll see it hit $6 across much of the country before Xmas, and probably $9 in SoCal. From what I’m hearing, before the price hits that level, there will be spot shortages that will cause stations to be unable to get a delivery. For those of us that remember 1973, this is feeling eerily familiar.
4.95/gal no rewards or points so it cost 82 dollars to fill my bloody car this morning. I can’t even imagine what diesel drivers are doing to keep their rigs filled. I
@sillyheathen
In London, that would be ~$144.
In Paris, ~$149.
In Frankfurt, ~$176
@macromeh cool?
Filled the rental south of the Canadian border. (Should have waited to be a bit closer to the border as it was about 25 cents a gallon cheaper!) Still, it’s more here in Canada right now